This Week’s Influencer: Dismantling the Black Box of Video Measurement, Programmatic’s Rise in Popularity, ORBIT’s Making Waves, and More…

Does video perform better than audio? That is a question the market has been trying to answer for years, especially now that many podcasts feature video.

The industry has pivoted hard to video. It offers massive scale and new discovery opportunities. But for years, we’ve operated inside a measurement “black box,” forcing marketers to assume that a YouTube view is worth the same as a podcast download.

We now know that assumption is potentially costing brands millions.

In this Media Roundtable: Special Edition,  Giles Martin (EVP, Strategy & Insights, Oxford Road) welcomes Pete Birsinger (CEO & Founder, Podscribe) to reveal the results of our industry-first report, “Re-Thinking YouTube: Why Your YouTube Ads Are Converting 25% Worse Than Audio.” After analyzing over 1,000 campaigns across 100+ brands, the data has revealed a shocking performance gap.

“The biggest unlocker of revenue is some way to measure the host-read embedded ads on YouTube.” – Pete Birsinger (CEO & Founder, Podscribe)

Pete and Giles are talking: The Black Box, Smart Methodology, and Lean-In Audiences.

The Classifieds

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It’s a Classified

Network: Big Little Media / Monthly Downloads: 155k

Podcasts, like birds, migrate during Q4, and this year is no different. This week, we have two top-performing podcasts with new networks that may still be available for rebooks. Our first is a brilliant melange of comedy, news, and internet hijinks. Hosts Ricky Hayberg and Eliot Morgan> cover a mix of global, national, and internet news, often peppering in their own brand of witty critique and bold reporting.

This is a video-heavy show with strong content alignment with similar nerd-driven YouTube channels, such as Funhaus and GameGrumps. Their content attracts a loyal, engaged audience of high-value consumers seeking effective updates on trending topics. They have amassed many DR advertisers with a strong male demo and a penchant for efficiency. Don’t allow a lag in your decision; sprint through your backlog by clicking below.

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Your Download For the Cultural Trends of Today

Network: Nativ.ly / Monthly Downloads: 50k

Creativity doesn’t have a strict standardization and is therefore a boundless topic of conversation. Sam Fragoso knows this well, as the idea fuels his long-running podcast, Talk Easy with Sam Fragoso. As a writer and cultural critic, Fragoso has explored complex ideas around the human condition for over a decade, and in his sit-down interviews, he deconstructs that creative process with a wide variety of industry professionals. Whether waxing poetic about The New Yorker’s 100th anniversary or walking through the production of a director’s new film, Fragoso creates welcoming, curious spaces for his listeners, and they happily walk through them. This has become an efficient top performer for several internal clients, especially those looking for a consumer base interested in high-end DTC products. Put the pen to paper, or the arrow icon on the link below, and learn more about this key offering.

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In Case You Missed It

Programmatic Audio: It’s the Next Big Thing

Madison & Wall projects digital audio will capture $1.2 billion of the $36 billion US programmatic market in 2025, with programmatic representing 73% of all open web transactions. Programmatic automation in audio is forecasted to climb from 22% in 2025 to 46% by 2030. eMarketer projects that 183.3 million of 239.6 million US digital audio listeners will be ad-accessible by 2026. iHeartMedia recently joined Spotify and SiriusXM in selling inventory through Amazon DSP. Madison & Wall is more conservative than eMarketer’s $2.3B forecast. Go figure, eMarketer is known to be optimistic. Either way, programmatic still represents only about 10–20% of digital audio spend, which says we are still in the early stages of growth. That will change, as access to inventory expands. If you want to enter this space, talk to us. We have the experts.

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Podcasting’s Adult Years

Edison Research Share of Ear Q3 2025 shows podcasting’s median age has jumped to 39, up from 34 in 2023 and 29 in 2017—a “10-year increase in just eight years.” Biggest growth came from the 45-54 and 55-64 demos. Podcasts now hold 20% share of ad-supported audio vs. AM/FM’s 64%. 2025 is the year Edison Research showed podcasting hitting 55% in monthly consumption, helped by a broader definition that better captures video. It stands to reason that the median age would rise as well. As the podcasting tent gets bigger, there are more opportunities to reach a wider range of demographic segments, including older listeners with significant disposable income and purchasing power.

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Podcast Ads Reward Smart Buyers

Acast reports 41% Q3 sales growth driven by big brands like Capital One and Coca-Cola flooding into podcast ads. Startups are struggling to compete. One brand (Asset) spent $60K on podcast ads with poor conversion on large shows, but found that smaller niche shows delivered better ROI. Acast CEO Greg Glenday admits the core problem: “Everybody is interested in podcasting ads, nobody has gone all the way in because it’s hard to buy and measure the ads.” If you’re a marketer working through a holdco, then yes, podcasting might be hard to buy and hard to measure. That’s not the case for specialist agencies that live in this space. Don’t overlook the insight that smaller shows often outperform big shows on ROI. Just don’t misinterpret it as a strategy to only buy niche shows. If you buy small, you’re likely to stay small.

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#SaveTheLiveReads

A Wickedly Good MasterClass on Ad-Reads

Hollywood is abuzz about this week’s #STLR from Tactful Pettiness hosts Cody Rigsby and Andrew Chappelle, turning what could be a standard ad into an engaging, story-driven moment perfect for MasterClass. By opening with a personal, glamorous anecdote about attending the Wicked: For Good premiere, the listener is instantly hooked. This cultural moment connects that sense of access and aspiration to what MasterClass offers, making the transition feel organic rather than salesy. The tone is conversational, curious, and confident, with genuine enthusiasm that comes through in thoughtful name checks of instructors like Shonda Rhimes, Martha Stewart, Kris Jenner, and Annie Leibovitz. Key product details, pricing, flexibility, variety, and guarantees are delivered clearly without disrupting the flow, while the call to action feels friendly and on brand rather than scripted. The ad’s common theme is authenticity, energy, and trust, making it possible to learn from the biggest and boldest names in showbiz and beyond!

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OXFORd In The News

Oxford Road Reveals That “OGs” Dominate New Podcasts In Ad Performance

Last week, we released our ORBIT Top 15 Performing OG Podcasts report, and the industry is taking notice. Outlets including Sounds Profitable, Podnews, Podcast Business Journal, and Podcasting Today are covering how ORBIT continues to challenge conventional wisdom about podcast advertising. This month’s rankings reveal that shows launched before March 2020 (before the podcasting gold rush) consistently outperform newer shows in driving ROI. In fact, 75% of today’s top performers launched before the pandemic, and OG shows carry a 12% efficiency premium thanks to multi-year listener relationships that newer entrants simply can’t replicate. The findings span 9 different genres, proving once again that there’s no single winning category, only shows that have built high-trust environments over time. For advertisers still chasing the latest celebrity launch or chart-topper, the data offers a clear message: execution outlasts hype. To see which veteran shows are delivering the strongest advertiser results, check out the full ORBIT Top 15 Performing OG Podcasts list here

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Understanding The Science Behind What Makes a Radio Ad Stick

Our award-winning podcast Ad Infinitum is making waves beyond the podcasting world. Radio Ink picked up the latest episode, “Human Hacks,” featuring best-selling behavioral science author Richard Shotton, and transformed it into a deep dive on the science of audio persuasion. The piece explores Shotton’s insights from his book Hacking the Human Mind and how Oxford Road’s Executive Creative Director, Stew Redwine, applies them to audio advertising. The takeaway? Abstraction is the enemy of memorability. As Shotton explains, people remember just 9% of abstract phrases but 36% of concrete ones, a fourfold difference that makes or breaks audio creative. It’s why Red Bull says “gives you wings” instead of “gives you energy.” For advertisers looking to understand why some audio ads stick while others dissolve on-air, this is required listening. Check out the full episode here.

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