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Thought Leadership Ad Infinitum S3E13 - This is my real voice

How can audio ads break through in a world of AI ads and boring reads? By being relentlessly real.

The world’s only podcast solely dedicated to audio ads strikes back against AI! Presenting Ad Infinitum Season 3, Episode 14: “This is My Real Voice.”

Host Stew Redwine (Executive Creative Director, Oxford Road) welcomes Brandon Beville (Producer, Morning Wire). They get to the root of authenticity, tapping into Brandon’s special insight as both producer and ad-reader (according to one commenter, his voice sounds like “ a frat guy from Boston”). Together, they put up Brandon’s spot against top-spending podcast ads from Google, ParkWhiz, LG, and Wells Fargo using our Audiolytics™ framework. Which spot will come out on top? Guess you’ll have to dial in to find out.

Stew and Brandon talk The Real You, The 3-4 Rule, Active Listening, and more. Let’s dig in…

“Make it as much you as you can.” – Brandon Beville (Producer, Morning Wire)

Bring Your Full Self — Whether you’re writing copy, setting strategy, or voicing an ad read, none of it will work if it feels inauthentic. To make the words land, it has to feel real. It doesn’t have to be perfect, but it does need to be genuine. For ads, that means tapping into why you actually care about the product you’re selling. CAOs, for hosts to give honest endorsements of your brand, it helps if you can show why you care, too, even by sharing personal anecdotes.

The 3-4 Rule — Ads that break through don’t sound like ads. To get those kinds of performances, Brandon aims for 3-4 takes. That’s enough to dial it in, get comfortable with the words, and have a natural read in one go before it turns stale. CAOs, listen to your airchecks. If the reads are awkward, it might be their first time with the material. Raise your hand to encourage them to put in more effort. And meet them halfway! If they’re stumbling on a line that sounds like jargon, change it and write it more like how you’d tell a friend instead of how you’d pitch to a boardroom.

Listening Ears On — Brandon took his inspiration for his Ollie ad when he heard his dog growling at dinner time. When we’re open to it, the world is rich with sound… but most ads only use the spoken word. CAOs, if you want your ads to sound like no one else, start by listening like no one else. Whether your product is digital or physical, using it will leave some audio fingerprints that only you could create. Capture them to create richer experiences for listeners.

Want more insights on making the realest audio ads you can? Tune in to the full episode here:

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Host Stew Redwine (Executive Creative Director, Oxford Road) welcomes best-selling behavioral science author Richard Shotton (The Choice Factory, Hacking the Human Mind). They’re looking at some of the most relevant behavioral studies in marketing and applying that formula to top-spending podcast ads from  McAfee, AmBev, Tide Pods, and  IBM

Stew and Richard talk Simplicity, Big Ladles, Concrete, and more. Let’s dig in…

“[It’s] always easier to work with human nature than against it.” – Richard Shotton (Author, Hacking the Human Mind)

Simple is Smart – To sound smart, keep it simple. In a study with simple and complex versions of the same text, readers said the simple version’s author sounded smarter. Why?  Big words confuse the audience, and they blame the writer. So make your talking points simple. Hosts will love you, and you’ll sound smarter, too.

Get the Big Ladle – We think information is the big blocker to action, but actually, it’s ease. A study showed that people ate more vegetables when a large serving ladle was used instead of tongs. CAOs, reflect on your current setup. Is it ridiculously easy for customers to sign up? Or ridiculously easy for hosts to read your copy (see above)? Whatever the challenge, instead of adding new info, try greasing the wheels first.

Words like Concrete – Studies show people remember concrete phrases (“white horse”) 4 times more than intangible ones (“subtle fault”). Look over your copy. If you want it to stick in people’s minds, skip the floating abstract words and firm up the copy with sturdy, concrete words and phrases.

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Protecting Human Connection: Audio’s ROI, AI Slop, & Netflix Moves

How will the industry shift with 200k AI episodes? Or with Netflix’s $400M podcast push? How do audio and video podcasts actually stack up for attention? Find out on a new Media Roundtable: Industry Edition, sponsored by our friends at ALLCITY Network.

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• James Cridland (Editor, Podnews & Podcast Business Journal)
• Spencer Semonson (Media Supervisor, Oxford Road)
• Todd Elbrink (Director of Strategy & Performance, Oxford Road)
• Tucker Peleuses (VP of Strategy & Insights, Oxford Road)

The team is talking: Cheap TV, Video vs. Audio Attention, and Wading Past AI Slop. Let’s dig in.


“How do we make sure that we don’t get run over, for those of us that really care about the human connection piece?”
– Dan Granger (CEO & Founder, Oxford Road)

 

Netflix’s $8M Question – Netflix is offering 50+ podcasts to leave YouTube for $8M. If Netflix thinks podcasts are just cheaper TV, this move makes sense. But most podcasters don’t think about themselves that way. They build audience connection in a wildly powerful and efficient way. Leaving open platforms for closed ones diminishes that power. Todd’s hot take: Podcasters looking for a fast payday should take the exit and leave the others to grow their audiences.

Attention Increases ROI – A new study found that video podcasts cost 77% more to produce than audio, but audio beats video for completion rates (66% vs 61%). Audio’s an incredibly efficient way to grab and hold attention. That said, adding a video component actually increases plays for the audio version. The TLDR for CAOs: audio and video both help your campaigns. Measurement’s going to be harder, but it’s worth it. And in the meantime, keep asking for better measurement tools to anyone who’ll listen.

Protecting Human Connection – Ashley Carman’s Podcast Business Summit encapsulated the fight for the soul of podcasting. Inception Point boasts +200k AI episodes (all without QC). Netflix hopes to entice shows to take the sure money, and creators want to stay in control and help build brands (their own and their partners). While there’s money to be made in all directions, trying to protect the heart of podcasting, the authentic human connection, is only possible from some paths. CAOs: Uncertainty creates opportunity–for your shows that work, start conversations that can deepen your partnerships. If you value the connection between your creators and their audiences, continue to invest in them, and they’ll continue to invest in you.

 

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Bye, YouTube: Why Spotify’s Moving Hit Shows to Netflix

Did you have Netflix becoming a major audio platform on your 2026 bingo card? Don’t worry if you’re surprised, we’re here to help you make sense of the big moves by the industry’s (new) big players.

This week on The Media Roundtable: Industry Edition, Dan Granger (CEO & Founder, Oxford Road) hosts audio experts:

The team is talking: Netflix x Spotify, Thinking Locally, Podcast’s Growth, and more. Let’s dig in.

“We’re in the right space. I think we all just wish there were fewer leashes to hold as you’re trying to make sense of all of it.” – Dan Granger (CEO & Founder, Oxford Road)

Netflix and Spotify Press Play – Spotify inked a deal with Netflix to move some podcasts (mostly from The Ringer network) off YouTube and onto Netflix starting in 2026.

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  • Cons: Gated content shrinks the audience, big questions remain on how live reads will be executed, and more measurement complications.

For performance CAOs, wait-and-see. For those in the winner-take-all categories, Netflix Podcast ads might be worth exploring?

Local’s Moment is Coming – Audio is the fastest-growing tool in local content marketing. 15% of local businesses use audio for marketing, up from 6% in 2022 (per a Borrell study). If small businesses and retailers are seeing success in local audio, there could be a revenue uptick for local journalism and local content creation. Soon consumption numbers and distribution ease could make local audio a key part of any CAO’s playbook.

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